Showing posts with label can frosting. Show all posts
Showing posts with label can frosting. Show all posts

Monday, April 28, 2025

Followup Raspberry Cake, Fluid Deconfusion

A mysterious title, eh? The cake is a followup to "Raspberry Con-fusion Cake". I "deconfusioned" by using the amount of gelatin fluid I intended originally—1/2 cup of water and 1/2 cup of milk into a bowl with a packet of sugar-free raspberry gelatin. The newer cake tastes as good as the first one, nice density and no crumbliness. The layers' heights don't seem much different.

During the six days of consumption, the newer-version cake was consistently moist and without the frosting becoming more gooey.

If you try a similar gelatin with cake recipe, this one is improved. If you happen to follow the gelatin's directions for gelatin instead of halving the liquid, the result won't be a disaster. Consider consuming the cake in less time before frosting gooeyness. I don't recall the rest of the downsides of the first cake; I don't plan to repeat my mistake.

Calories and Sodium

Note: Using sugared Jello instead of sugar-free HCF adds about 320 extra calories (~27 C/svg) and 320 extra mg of sodium (~27 C/svg) to the cake. Between the two sugar-free brands, the amount of calories is negligible. The amount for sodium is more significant. The following abbreviated table compares calories and sodium for HCF, Royal, and Jello raspberry gelatins.

Visit "Raspberry Con-fusion Cake" for resources for other gelatin and cake recipes.


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Friday, January 31, 2025

Raspberry Con-fusion Cake

I wanted to Kool-Aid my cake using Raspberry Kool-Aid, but the supermarket didn't carry that flavor. I thought about using Jello, maybe make a poke cake. Fortunately, I found info for helping integrate raspberry gelatin and cake in a non-pokey way. The result was my raspberry con-fusion cake (details farther down).

No Hokey Pokey Cake for Me, but Something Else

When I read elsewhere that a poke cake would deteriorate in a few days, I abandoned the idea. Besides short life, the recipe looked like more work than I wanted to do. I later thought about making something with raspberry gelatin and cake. Did some poking around supermarket prices and availability. Jello's small size cost nearly as much as the family size. I noticed that the store carries both Royal and Hill Country Fare raspberry sugar-free brands.

I found a few resources to use gelatin in cake besides making poke cakes. Several commenters recommended merely following the cake box's instructions and mixing in the gelatin powder. I've run across info about enhancing cakes by adding an extra egg and using milk instead of water, In my zeal to try a few different details, I put in too much fluid.

My Con-fusion

My con-fusion with this cake resulted from using the amount of fluid called for if making a small gelatin batch. For integration into a cake, I needed to put in only half the fluid. Regular instructions for small-package gelatin calls for 1 cup of boiling water and 1 cup of cold water. Normal box cake recipes call for 1 cup of water total. Sooo, I put too much fluid. I decided to just carry on and see how the cake turned out.

To adjust for too much fluid, I baked the cakes for several minutes longer, hoping evaporation would help. The cake layers baked; the toothpick test came out well. However, they did not rise. The finished cake cut cleanly with no crumbs. The mouth-feel texture was dense, like pound cake. Within the six days of consumption, the cake became more moist, even watery. The frosting seemed to almost liquefy to saucy consistency.

If inclined, Google "what happens if you add too much fluid to cake batter". The next time I retry the recipe, I'll remember to use only half the amount of fluid.)

Update April 29 2025: "Followup Raspberry Cake, Fluid Deconfusion" (article, video)

Resources for Using Gelatin in Cakes (Excluding Pokes)

Calories and Sodium

The calories and sodium differ on whether you use sugar-free or sugared Jello gelatin powders.

Note: Using sugared Jello instead of sugar-free HCF adds about 320 extra calories (~27 C/svg) and 320 extra mg of sodium (~27 mg/svg) to the cake. Between the two sugar-free brands, the amount of calories is negligible. The amount for sodium is more significant. The following abbreviated table compares calories and sodium for HCF, Royal, and Jello raspberry gelatins.


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Sunday, July 31, 2022

Pt 2 Pineapple Coconut Cake, Closer Cake Prep Looks


During the planning and execution of my pineapple an coconut cake (article, video), I thought of closer looks at some parts of processes. They pertain to combo-flavor cakes using two kinds of cake mixes, preparing cake bans before pouring in batter, and squeezing more out of can frosting.

Weighing and divvying up two cake mix flavors for combination flavor

To combine two flavors, the packages need weighing first. During the pouring of each package separately into a bowl with strainer, the strainer is handy for sifting. (One reason I wanted to perform this task was to see if either of the powder included flavor bits, such as dehydrated pineapple or coconut.) Nope.

Using parchment paper and spray oil to line cake pans before pouring the batter for baking

A very traditional method for prepping pans for baking is greasing the pans, then sprinkling and tapping flour to coat it. The cake mix boxes lately seem to advocate using spray oil, and ignoring the sides. My method is using spray oil and parchment paper, spraying bare pan, then pressing paper, then spraying again. The baked cakes come out cleanly and leave nearly no residue on the pans. Makes for easy wipe and clean.

Using mixer to increase canned frosting volume and spreadability

I'd used mostly can frosting (16 ounces) for a long time. Occasionally, I do buttercream (powder sugar, butter, milk), which takes a lot more effort. It seems that one pound is skimpy, and I need to spread thinly. I thought about the "whipped" frosting that comes in a much taller can. Taller can seems to mean more frosting, right? Also, I have run across comments on the web that it's very spreadable. I'll take the leap someday. Not too wild about the weight being actually only 14 ounces.

I also ran across info that you can whip can frosting and get more volume. I tried it once before, but didn't think to do volume measurement before and after, but did notice difference. This time, I did before and after comparison, noting the frosting ended about 3/8" from the rim. After whipping, I refilled the can. The frosting reached the rim, for ~12% increase. This session might have been more fun and yielded more if I had not refrigerated the can for a few hours before the whipping. In any case, I noticed improved spreadability.


"Pt 1 Pineapple Coconut Cake, Using Half Box of Each Flavor"

"Pt 2 Pineapple Coconut Cake, Closer Cake Prep Looks"

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Pt 1 Pineapple Coconut Cake, Using Half Box of Each Flavor


I'd deviated from various cake mix instructions now and then. This time, I decided to try making a hybrid cake of two flavors—pineapple and coconut. (Duncan Hines makes both flavors.) Get info for ingredients, equipment, and procedures for all the stages to make this delish pina-colada-ish cake. View also "Pt 2 Pineapple Coconut Cake, Closer Cake Prep Looks", the supplemental video.

"Signature Pineapple Supreme Cake Mix" and "Dolly Parton's Southern Style Coconut Flavored Cake Mix" provide nutrition info; preparation instructions require some subnavigation. Most important for me is the list of ingredients for mixing.

Boxes in hand, I found commonality for fluid and fat. With research and thoughts of "Do no harm", I came up with a suitable list of ingredients.

The pineapple mix box calls for 1 cup water, 3 eggs, and 1/2 cup oil. The coconut mix box calls for 1 cup milk, 4 eggs, and 1/2 cup unsalted melted butter. An anomalous ingredient for the coconut cake is two cups of coconut on the finished cake, top and sides.

In making my hybrid cake, my final decision on instruction ingredients was 1 cup milk, 4 eggs, and 1/2 cup oil. As for the coconut, I thought the amount excessive, and cleanup troublesome. I decided to fold 1/2 cup shredded coconut into the batter just before pouring it all into the prepared baking pans.

Fluid thoughts

I had toyed with the idea of using all or half pineapple juice and half milk. I used nonfat milk coz it's what we use. (Whatever convenient fat-content milk should be fine.)

Egg quantity

I researched about using three or four eggs, and numerous sources advocated the extra egg as helpful, certainly not harmful for results. It helps prevent cake crumbliness. I'm guessing an extra egg also adds richness and extra nutrition.

Fat type

I melt butter for popcorn, but seldom for any other reason. I decided that using oil is slightly less hassle for cake making. Also, oil costs about 1/3 as much as butter. Another fat type to consider could be shortening, which I haven't used in many years. Out of sight, out of mind. I gave a brief thought to applesauce subbing. Nah!

Calories and Sodium

This calorie and sodium section differs from similar table-form sections that I've created in most other blog articles WRT baked items. Notable are coconut and frosting, which list servings in grams instead of ounces. Whole grams instead of decimal grams or fractional ounces tend to result in rounded off ("squishy") numbers.

 Calories info

Ref: both boxes 15.25 oz. Calories: pineapple mix only, 170/serving; coconut mix only, 170/serving

cake mix, 2 half boxes total -> 1700 C
4 eggs, 70 cal each -> 280 C
milk, nonfat, 80 C/cup -> 80 C
oil, 1984 C/cup -> 992 C
coconut, 1/2 C packed, aka 42g (70C/15g, thus 2.8 svgs) -> 196 C
frosting, 16 oz, aka 453g (140C/33g, thus 13.73 svgs) -> 1922 C

Entire cake calories: 5710 (mix, eggs, milk, oil, coconut, frosting)

If 10 cake wedges, 570 C each
If 12 cake wedges, 476 C each

 Sodium info

Ref: both boxes, 340mg/svg for pineapple cake mix, 350mg/svg for coconut cake mix

cake mix, 2 half boxes total -> 3450mg 4 eggs, 70mg/egg -> 280mg
oil, no sodium
milk, 105 mg/cup -> 105mg
coconut, 1/2 C packed (42g), 20mg S/15g, thus 2.8 svgs -> 56mg
frosting, 16 oz (453g), 70mg S/33g, thus 13.73 svgs -> 961mg

Entire cake sodium: 4852mg (mix, eggs, coconut, frosting)

If 10 cake wedges, 485mg sodium each
If 12 cake wedges, 404mg sodium each

Closer Looks at Cake Prep

Visit "Pt 2 Pineapple Coconut Cake, Closer Cake Prep Looks" (article, video) for following details:

  • Weighing and divvying up two cake mix flavors for combination flavor
  • Using parchment paper and spray oil to line cake pans before pouring the batter for baking
  • Using mixer to increase canned frosting volume and spreadability

"Pt 1 Pineapple Coconut Cake, Using Half Box of Each Flavor"

"Pt 2 Pineapple Coconut Cake, Closer Cake Prep Looks"

View more cake recipes.